1998 Rover 820 Sterling Coupe ***£200*** bank holiday sale!!

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Re: 1998 Rover 820 Sterling Coupe ***£200*** bank holiday sa

Post by scoobyh123 » Sun May 25, 2014 5:54 pm

Dan - any news on the sale?
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Re: 1998 Rover 820 Sterling Coupe ***£200*** bank holiday sa

Post by ash » Mon May 26, 2014 10:06 pm

Lovely looking car. This car seriously needs to be saved. It might very well only be a cheap and simple seal or hose that needs replacing!

I am guessing it wouldn't drive 117 miles back to Worthing?
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Post by scoobyh123 » Mon May 26, 2014 10:45 pm

It should do from what Dan has said, most of the problems seem relatively minor to me. he hasn't replied to my post last night asking if there's any news on the sale so he may still have it - give him a try and see!
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Re: 1998 Rover 820 Sterling Coupe ***£200*** bank holiday sa

Post by DLR » Mon May 26, 2014 10:54 pm

Sorry but this is going for scrap this week.

Didn't get Simon's message until I early Saturday morning (was working until midnight) and there was no answer when I tried Saturday afternoon.

Had a pleasant conversation with someone from the Coventry area Saturday evening (was that your friend, Dave?) and he didn't let me know a yes/no.

Got to be honest I'm ambivalent about the situation. Ok it's a shame it's going to be bean cans, but remember at the end of the day it was a tired high-mileage car and whilst Brad did save it from the scrapheap last year it wasn't the perfect car everyone I interacted with was after. All potential buyers wanted concours-for-scrap-money. I was upfront about everything and at no point hid anything.
Perhaps this is why I will never be destined for a career in sales?!

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Post by scoobyh123 » Mon May 26, 2014 11:19 pm

That's a shame Dan. No it wasn't my contact from the Coventry area, he could only come up with £150 and knew the car had a few bits in need of sorting. Perhaps that was Simons contact?

What about this other member called Ash in the Worthing area? He sounds keen, could be worth at least talking to him.

As for not hiding anything and being upfront, that's why you won't make it in used car sales - perhaps something else requiring total honesty to sell it? There's plenty of jobs out there selling that way, you just need to work harder to get them in the first place!

If it's any help and someone does rescue it from the crusher, i happen to have a set of 16" Prestiges with reasonable tyres that could be had quite cheaply if they are genuinely going to save the car.
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Re: 1998 Rover 820 Sterling Coupe ***£200*** bank holiday sa

Post by DLR » Mon May 26, 2014 11:45 pm

I've butchered it I'm afraid. If anyone took it on now they'd need a new driver's door, new dashboard (I took a hacksaw to it to remove something because I'm impatient and it's scrap fodder anyway) plus some other odds and sods like expansion tank.

I do feel bad about sealing its fate especially since Bradders saved it before, but look at it another way - the number of Coupes has decreased, therefore the rest are now more valuable by x amount!

One other thing I must say - when I took this on in December I intended to punt it on anyway (said this right from the beginning) but did not anticipate the issues that would arise from using it daily. It wasn't neglected, but it was used every day so it got treated as such - being washed every couple of weeks, lots of lovely northern weather, moving home again when i had some "issues". Plus thinking about it I am certain that the damp in the back was there since day one and caused me to have these reactions where I was temporarily blinded and on one occasion stranded at Stafford because I couldn't see or breathe. Only ever happened after extended periods of being in this car. Coincidence?

Plus I must confess I did dislike this car from early on. It left me stranded on the very first journey north (seized brakes) and caused me to miss vital assessments, performances and shows. Cursed from day one! My parents were cursed when it came to red cars (Metro engine fire, Montego electrical loom fire, Rover 216 engine electric problems, etc. ) so perhaps I have the curse as well?

I honestly think after being the cosseted car of many and doing minimal miles, my use as a daily driver was a factor in these issues becoming prevalent. Sign of how these are expensive to maintain and more suited to collections or weekend car treatment?

As said elsewhere I am getting the Si sorted. Currently driving the KV6 fastback and that's on 76k on original engine. Beginning to smoke blue smoke on start up so that one is due to go pop at any moment.

I'm fairly certain that I will not be purchasing any more 800s. As was pointed out to me last week these cars will drain me financially - there's more to life than worrying about these cars.

Edited to correct atrocious spelling and to apologise for the rant...

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Post by scoobyh123 » Tue May 27, 2014 12:00 am

Hmm, after reading that lot, don't be surprised to find it has rebuilt itself overnight and called itself "Christine"!

I suspect you had some sort of allergic reaction to something in the car, possibly some sort of mould spores arising from the damp. Would be worse if you suffer hayfever, asthma, eczema or anything along those lines.

Assuming it hasn't rebuilt itself overnight, does it still have an illuminated passenger sunvisor and is the scuttle panel in reasonable condition? If so i'd be interested in both which would put a few quid more in your pocket without effecting the price the scrappy will give you. If yes on the sunvisor, if you can get as much of the cable with it as possible please as someone has replaced mine with a normal one and the cable is hidden somewhere and i can't find it so may have to run a complete new length.

Sorry to be a vulture but as your mind is well and truly made up there's probably no harm in asking and it might help both of us.

Nearly forgot - my bad luck with red cars :

Volvo 145 estate GOT 455K - vandalised, broken into and stolen from
Marina 1.3 LWL 108N - broke down on A33, was broken into while i went for a tow and various stuff stolen inc brand new camera - loads of £££
Vauxhall VX2300 PEW 644R - fell off the jacks while repairing suspension for MoT. Angle iron (2" section) hit me between the eyes and nearly killed me. Car later stolen and found weeks later in a scrapyard
Datsun Cherry W reg (one of the few reg's i can't remember) - caused the break-up of me and my girlfriend/fiancee to be, long story!
Audi 100E5S D951 YLW - written off while not even in the car!
Astra F941 HTN - was an absolute lemon, allegedly MoT'd on purchase, brakes and suspension shot to FLICK and then some, lost shed-loads of £££ and my credit rating!
Jaguar 4.2 Sovereign IJI 1392 - gearbox and exhaust went bang for no apparent reason one dark night, just about got home, had to scrap it for £0

You'd think i'd learn after that lot wouldn't you? Thankfully i have - no more red cars for me!!!
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Re: 1998 Rover 820 Sterling Coupe ***£200*** bank holiday sa

Post by DLR » Tue May 27, 2014 12:12 am

scoobyh123 wrote: I suspect you had some sort of allergic reaction to something in the car, possibly some sort of mould spores arising from the damp. Would be worse if you suffer hayfever, asthma, eczema or anything along those lines.

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Yes to all the above! Sickly child, now sickly adult.

Sun visor is yours, I think the scuttle has some slight bubbling but I'll remove/photograph tomorrow for you and send a Pm with pics if that's ok?

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Post by scoobyh123 » Tue May 27, 2014 12:32 am

Know how you feel on that one - born with eczema (although not diagnosed until i was 40!), had hayfever from 21 and asthma from 42 (mainly due to a damp house and serious mould in the kitchen!), now have other much nastier problems to deal with so they are just a minor irritation.

Thanks on the sunvisor, might seem picky as i never sit in the passenger seat but it should have an illuminated one. The scuttle sounds better than what i currently have, i'll look forward to your pics/PM and we can talk £££ and delivery/postage/collection via PM if that works for you?
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Re: 1998 Rover 820 Sterling Coupe ***£200*** bank holiday sa

Post by DLR » Tue May 27, 2014 12:48 am

Rover owners - healthy people!

Been an asthmatic since birth (or as good as, anyway) and know no different. I envy those who feel the need to remind me that they "grew out of it", great for them but not really helpful to me when I'm lying on the floor turning blue! :lol:

But enough of that. Yeah I shall PM you tomorrow/Wednesday with photos and we'll go from there. Hopefully the scuttle will be of use to you!

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Post by scoobyh123 » Tue May 27, 2014 12:59 am

Aren't we just! Seems i grew into the asthma and hayfever although i often wonder if i had them from birth albeit in milder forms. I envy people who say they had an accident but the surgeon sorted them out but the specialist told me i only had one surgical option on my main problem and that isn't an option. Not yet anyway but it has caused something else which has created 2 more things - i'll sit here and die quietly lol!

Hope the scuttle is useful, yeah. Forgot to ask, what condition are the courtesy light (in the door pillars) switches in?
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Post by Richard Moss » Tue May 27, 2014 3:30 am

DLR wrote:Plus I must confess I did dislike this car from early on. It left me stranded on the very first journey north (seized brakes) and caused me to miss vital assessments, performances and shows. Cursed from day one!
A low-use, old car of any make will throw up problems when pressed into regular service. If they are then fixed then the car will most likely become a reliable form of transport. I feel that you may well have had an unrealistic initial expectation with this car and not enough patience
DLR wrote:I honestly think after being the cosseted car of many and doing minimal miles, my use as a daily driver was a factor in these issues becoming prevalent. Sign of how these are expensive to maintain and more suited to collections or weekend car treatment?
I disagree - see above. You just need to accept that slightly older car will need a bit more tinkering and preventative maintenance than younger ones in order to get back up to scratch and then will behave in an entirely acceptable manner. However, that tinkering requires a certain degree of patience and mechanical ability.

To be honest, Dan, based on your history with 800s (as recorded in your posts on this forum), you're probably best suited to a more modern car which can be kept on the road thanks to no more than refuelling and the occasional oil change. The downside to that "ignorability" is that you pay for it with depreciation. I would strongly recommend that as soon as the 820Si is fixed that you sell it for a realistic price and find something that suits you better.

My eldest daughter takes her driving test on saturday and all be well will shorty be taking to the road in a 1996 Rover 100 which has just 23,000 miles on the clock. That low level of use will doubtless translate into a number of faults and failures in the early days but will then probably pay dividends as those are fixed. That's the way life is and the situation would be the same on an old, low mileage Fiesta, Corsa, Polo etc. What it won't do, though, is get any less valuable - probably quite the reverse!
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Post by SJG » Tue May 27, 2014 7:44 am

Why don't you send me your phone number by private message (pm) and I will pass it on?
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Post by DLR » Tue May 27, 2014 1:09 pm

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DLR wrote:Plus I must confess I did dislike this car from early on. It left me stranded on the very first journey north (seized brakes) and caused me to miss vital assessments, performances and shows. Cursed from day one!
A low-use, old car of any make will throw up problems when pressed into regular service. If they are then fixed then the car will most likely become a reliable form of transport. I feel that you may well have had an unrealistic initial expectation with this car and not enough patience
DLR wrote:I honestly think after being the cosseted car of many and doing minimal miles, my use as a daily driver was a factor in these issues becoming prevalent. Sign of how these are expensive to maintain and more suited to collections or weekend car treatment?
I disagree - see above. You just need to accept that slightly older car will need a bit more tinkering and preventative maintenance than younger ones in order to get back up to scratch and then will behave in an entirely acceptable manner. However, that tinkering requires a certain degree of patience and mechanical ability.

To be honest, Dan, based on your history with 800s (as recorded in your posts on this forum), you're probably best suited to a more modern car which can be kept on the road thanks to no more than refuelling and the occasional oil change. The downside to that "ignorability" is that you pay for it with depreciation. I would strongly recommend that as soon as the 820Si is fixed that you sell it for a realistic price and find something that suits you better.

My eldest daughter takes her driving test on saturday and all be well will shorty be taking to the road in a 1996 Rover 100 which has just 23,000 miles on the clock. That low level of use will doubtless translate into a number of faults and failures in the early days but will then probably pay dividends as those are fixed. That's the way life is and the situation would be the same on an old, low mileage Fiesta, Corsa, Polo etc. What it won't do, though, is get any less valuable - probably quite the reverse!
Richard, I am not going to justify myself to you. Or anyone else, for that matter. I will not be told what cars I can and cannot drive by someone I've never met and I cannot believe you feel you have the right to talk to me that way. Yes I'm not your typical "classic car owner", but I have more enthusiasm than you think. World's best mechanic? No, I am not. Off-road storage? Sorry, don't have that either. I drive these daily as they were designed to be used, I don't keep them in the garage all polished and used on sunny car show days only. But I am a realist and do accept that they do go wrong and money needs to be spent/jobs need to be done.

When I had my initial incident I was less than 7 days into ownership, as it was advertised as a mechanically spot on sort of car I thought I'd go more than 7 days without breakdown. Brad was messed about by several potential buyers and I needed a car, so we made a deal and I took the car on with little hassle. When the caliper needed sorting he did offer a partial refund, but I declined on the basis that it was an older car and these things are to be expected! I'm not daft or naïve and I don't think I should buy a car that only needs refuelling. That's just downright daft.

At the end of the day, nobody took it on from Brad when he was selling and nobody took it on when I was selling. Therefore whilst you are entitled to your opinion ABOUT THE CAR, do not pass judgement on others thank you. If you don't know the whole scenario you are not informed enough to make a judgement on a person, which you have done. Parts have already been allocated to others in need of spares to keep theirs going so it will keep others alive. The rest will be made into the finest bean cans you've ever seen. A fate nobody acted upon to stop as everyone wants top-dollar car for bargain money.

Anyway, the fate of the car is sealed. Nothing will prevent that now. Time to move on with our lives and worry about real life for a change, not these rusty lumps of tin and rubber.

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Re: 1998 Rover 820 Sterling Coupe ***£200*** bank holiday sa

Post by SJG » Tue May 27, 2014 1:38 pm

I don't really think this is a fair comment to make Dan.
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