Re: 1994 BRG Vitesse Fastback

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Re: Re: 1994 BRG Vitesse Fastback

Post by 820Vitesse » Tue Apr 12, 2016 9:31 am

Thanks Dave, the plan is to get to Brands Hatch mid May.

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Re: Re: 1994 BRG Vitesse Fastback

Post by Alucard7002 » Tue Apr 12, 2016 9:40 am

Turned Delrin bushes?
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Re: Re: 1994 BRG Vitesse Fastback

Post by scoobyh123 » Tue Apr 12, 2016 10:07 am

Alucard7002 wrote:Turned Delrin bushes?

Hmmm - now there's a thought! When i get round to it i have some Nylatron GSM, Oilite bushes and a few other bits to make the new upper wishbone bearings for the front end.
Another option for the back end could be PTFE bushes - in fact PTFE could be an idea for all the bushes.
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Re: 1994 BRG Vitesse Fastback

Post by Slamm » Tue Apr 12, 2016 6:05 pm

Great work, should have plenty of fun setting it up.

That lower arm looks to have lost quite a bit of weight :D

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Re: Re: 1994 BRG Vitesse Fastback

Post by mercedade » Tue Apr 12, 2016 6:23 pm

Dammit, really wanted to see the end bushes on the trailing arms! Only for selfish reasons, but it'd be great if you could give me a quick run down of dimensions, mainly so I can have a look for near-equivalents now that 800 bushes are no longer available.

Great looking set up there, really very impressive work all round.
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Re: Re: 1994 BRG Vitesse Fastback

Post by 820Vitesse » Tue Apr 12, 2016 10:48 pm

Thanks Shaun, I suspect it will not be the best road set up and quite a change over the previous virtually standard arrangement.
Mercedade, what is wrong with your current bushes, I think they are meant to have plenty of "give" as they are just two big lumps of rubber each side.

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Re: Re: 1994 BRG Vitesse Fastback

Post by mercedade » Wed Apr 13, 2016 7:22 am

With the aid of a lever, it's possible to move the rear wheels from fore to aft with the movement coming from the bushes. You make a fair point, and to be honest I've got no idea what the 'right' amount of movement should be, but it's something I'm conscious of.
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Re: Re: 1994 BRG Vitesse Fastback

Post by traineefarmer » Wed Apr 13, 2016 2:42 pm

mercedade wrote:With the aid of a lever, it's possible to move the rear wheels from fore to aft with the movement coming from the bushes. You make a fair point, and to be honest I've got no idea what the 'right' amount of movement should be, but it's something I'm conscious of.
Mine does this too, yet I've previously stripped the rear suspension and all the bushes are intact. I wouldn't say they were in perfect condition, but definately serviceable. I do worry about the amount of movement, but don't want to go down the "full race" spec like Jim. Some nice polybushes would do fine.
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Re: Re: 1994 BRG Vitesse Fastback

Post by 820Vitesse » Sun May 01, 2016 9:22 pm

N/S/R suspension is now back on, still got the other side to fit but it all seems ok and the new damper and spring clear the wheel and tyre.

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I have some new fancy front brake disc bells arriving in a week or so then I can get the car back on its wheels and set the ride height at the rear.
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Re: Re: 1994 BRG Vitesse Fastback

Post by scoobyh123 » Sun May 01, 2016 10:47 pm

Nice work there Jim - i like the rose jointed ARB drop links! :wink: :D
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Re: Re: 1994 BRG Vitesse Fastback

Post by 820Vitesse » Mon May 02, 2016 10:26 pm

Thanks Dave, slowly getting it back together

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Re: 1994 BRG Vitesse Fastback

Post by Slamm » Tue May 03, 2016 7:13 pm

Wow, that rear arm looks really strange seeing it back on the car with no spring, a lot neater setup than the Rover job.
Turrets look good, cant wait to see what difference they make with the coil overs, excellent keep it coming.

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Re: Re: 1994 BRG Vitesse Fastback

Post by scoobyh123 » Tue May 03, 2016 7:39 pm

I misunderstood what you just said at first Shaun - i read it as you hadn't seen the coilover! :oops: :lol:

Have to admit though it does look odd without the "factory" spring, but a much neater job - i wonder if the front struts could be modified to fit the rear fairly easily? I heard a rumour that the same struts/springs from the 2/400 series are the same as the 800 so perhaps they could be fitted on the back end - i believe there's quite a choice in aftermarket springs for those, especially if you look for the Honda variants (Civic, Concerto, early CRX etc)
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Re: Re: 1994 BRG Vitesse Fastback

Post by gyrobird » Tue May 03, 2016 8:02 pm

Don't mean to put this down in the slightest but...

I'm not so sure that having the spring further out is a good idea.

I think there will be flexing where there was once none.

You're attempting to completely re design the rear suspension for what gain ?

You might end up actually making it worse along with some metal fatigue thrown in for good measure. Those original springs are where they are for a good reason if you care to study the box section carefully. and what you have added will in my opinion, take it away somewhere else.

Dangeroius !

Why didn't you just uprate the springs and shocks on their own ?

Hope it works. :?

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Re: Re: 1994 BRG Vitesse Fastback

Post by scoobyh123 » Tue May 03, 2016 8:36 pm

Good point about the spring relocation and i can see what you're saying. I suppose there is a reason why the shock goes to a fairly simple turret yet the spring has quite a bit of reinforcement round not only the lower arm mounts but where the spring makes contact with the body.
I suppose this will be a "suck it and see" job............ :?
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