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Manalishis Mk 1a 827 Vitesse (manual)

Post by Manalishi » Sun Sep 23, 2018 4:50 pm

Yes! Finally I got my hands on one of my dream Rovers. A black Vitesse fastback from 1989 with manual gearbox and non-cat!

Good points: It runs smoothly, nice and responsive on the throttle blip. Fairly clean on the inside and interior in good shape. It's done less than 100.000miles which is pretty low.

Bad points: It's been standing for a few years. Run regularly until 2 years ago when it didn't start, so really needs full attention on everything, probably including cambelt. Rust! Doors are bad, sills are rusty and bottom is not as I would hope. Paintwork is hard to tell really, I need to give it a thorough clean with some polish. Exhaust is probably blowing already. Brakes are really bad and needs to be taken apart and given a clean.

It comes with a vast collection of bodyparts including four doors that are a lot better, a front bumper that is intact and loads of lights etc.

Sold new to a Swede in Malaga and in the boot there is a safety box with Rover logo on it. I need to investigate this further but maybe the first owner worked for the embassy? He brought it back to Sweden some years later and now it's found its way to me.

A lot of work, but mostly things easily done on the driveway by myself, so hopefully it'll get a MoT test before first snow!

Dollysprint-Dave, the vin: xswwnpam218642


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Rover 827 Vitesse manual (non cat) -89 (Spain)
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Re: Manalishis Mk 1 827 Vitesse (manual)

Post by scoobyh123 » Sun Sep 23, 2018 8:06 pm

Looks a bit "Mad Max" here Henrik :

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Now i've seen the "safe", i remember seeing it as an option with a photo but when i saw it and in what, i can't remember. I thought it was bigger than that but i did find something that might be either that box itself or linked closely to it :

https://rimmerbros.com/Item--i-KBD10019

"Product Description


Specifications and additional product information
Rover 800 Early Badge 820ti
Rover 800 Late Badge Vitesse - Police Vehicle"

Those words come up on that page for that item. Nothing in the Product Description on this one, but the basic description sounds interesting :

https://rimmerbros.com/Item--i-ESK10005

Probably not much use to you on their own but someone with an EPC might be able to confirm what it is from one or other of those as a starting point? :wink: :D
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Dave


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Re: Manalishis Mk 1 827 Vitesse (manual)

Post by SEGUBJO » Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:12 am

Now Henrik got me going for a early Vitesse manual, lets se what I find on the net.
Does anyone have any suggestions on objects for sale, LHD and manual gearbox

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Re: Manalishis Mk 1 827 Vitesse (manual)

Post by Manalishi » Mon Sep 24, 2018 10:02 am

No Gunnar! You dont need more cars!
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Re: Manalishis Mk 1 827 Vitesse (manual)

Post by scoobyh123 » Mon Sep 24, 2018 10:08 am

Manalishi wrote:
Mon Sep 24, 2018 10:02 am
No Gunnar! You dont need more cars!
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Manalishis Mk 1 827 Vitesse (manual)

Post by SEGUBJO » Mon Sep 24, 2018 10:11 am

Afraid of competition Henrik?

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Post by scoobyh123 » Mon Sep 24, 2018 10:17 am

SEGUBJO wrote:
Mon Sep 24, 2018 10:11 am
Afraid of competition Henrik?
I don't think Henrik is afraid of competition - just alimony payments! :shock: :lol: :wink: :D
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Re: Manalishis Mk 1 827 Vitesse (manual)

Post by Manalishi » Mon Sep 24, 2018 10:35 am

Haha! Well 6 is enough for me, and one has to go - the Honda.

Dave, did you find any more info on the decat figures? I have never heard those bhp figures before and the C27a2 is quoted at 177bhp everywhere. Not that it really makes a difference but makes nice pub talk!
Henrik
Rover 820 Vitesse Coupe 180bhp -93 (Italy)
Rover 827 Vitesse manual (non cat) -89 (Spain)
Lexus GS450h -13
Honda Accord 2.4 Executive -04
Austin Seven Special -36
Austin Seven Ruby -36
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Rover 216 coupe -93
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Re: Manalishis Mk 1 827 Vitesse (manual)

Post by scoobyh123 » Mon Sep 24, 2018 10:46 am

Manalishi wrote:
Mon Sep 24, 2018 10:35 am
Haha! Well 6 is enough for me, and one has to go - the Honda.

Dave, did you find any more info on the decat figures? I have never heard those bhp figures before and the C27a2 is quoted at 177bhp everywhere. Not that it really makes a difference but makes nice pub talk!
When it's "officially" decatted Henrik, they call it the C27A3 but as far as i can tell, everything else remains the same. I can't remember where i found the information but it was on Rover documentation. There is also a C27A4 but that is for use with 91 octane leaded fuel and is something like 162bhp if memory serves and has a lower compression ratio i think.

I think the C27A3 was destined for Police use so isn't an official UK spec which is probably why so little is around on it. I'm still looking for the spec on it, i'm sure i'll find it at some point! :wink: :D
Cheers,
Dave


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Re: Manalishis Mk 1 827 Vitesse (manual)

Post by Manalishi » Mon Sep 24, 2018 11:44 am

The info I have is wikipedia, but that is totally useless, especially on Honda engines,. But it says the A2 is non cat and A1 is cat.
Henrik
Rover 820 Vitesse Coupe 180bhp -93 (Italy)
Rover 827 Vitesse manual (non cat) -89 (Spain)
Lexus GS450h -13
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Post by scoobyh123 » Mon Sep 24, 2018 11:53 am

That's about as close as it gets on "general" knowledge Henrik - not many know of the existence of the C27A3 and 4 and although they're listed in the Rover WSM, no power figures are given, or at least i can't find them!

I know i've seen it somewhere, it's too odd a figure to make up although it does coincide with a 15% increase over 169bhp. :wink: :D
Cheers,
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Re: Manalishis Mk 1 827 Vitesse (manual)

Post by Manalishi » Mon Sep 24, 2018 12:51 pm

By the way Dave, do you have a key to the vin-letters/Numbers. I know Dollysprint is the man but Im eager. :D

xswwnpam218642

Especially the Npam and if its possible to se manufacturing dates?
Henrik
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Lexus GS450h -13
Honda Accord 2.4 Executive -04
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Re: Manalishis Mk 1 827 Vitesse (manual)

Post by scoobyh123 » Mon Sep 24, 2018 1:37 pm

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That's the nearest i'e got Henrik, i'll have a look but i don't think i've got anything more that explains the VIN codes. Dollysprint Dave is really the man you need to decode build dates and so on but your VIN is unusual to say the least with the "WW" in it!

The N and P are the engine and gearbox respectively but on mine, the letters are CLKLAM so mine is a "K" engine (2.7) and "L" gearbox (PL5 Honda), going to the start of those 6 letters, it's a Class "C" (Sterling), body "L" (saloon - think my Coupé had a "K" here as well) but yours has "WW" for Class and Body, the "P" in the gearbox could well refer to PG1/PG2 gearboxes (manual) so that leaves the "N"???????????? :?: :?: :?: :?: :?:

Unless it refers to non-cat 2.7 but i doubt it. I don't know so please don't take this as gospel but it's sounding very much like a prototype or other "special order" build - hopefully the other Dave will be along soon and shed some light on it!

Can you see the ID sticker on the gearbox at all? If so, can you get the code from it?
Cheers,
Dave


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Re: Manalishis Mk 1 827 Vitesse (manual)

Post by SEGUBJO » Mon Sep 24, 2018 6:09 pm

Henrik!
Did you check the number on the metalplate in the left door opening?

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Re: Manalishis Mk 1 827 Vitesse (manual)

Post by Manalishi » Mon Sep 24, 2018 6:10 pm

No, why? :o
Henrik
Rover 820 Vitesse Coupe 180bhp -93 (Italy)
Rover 827 Vitesse manual (non cat) -89 (Spain)
Lexus GS450h -13
Honda Accord 2.4 Executive -04
Austin Seven Special -36
Austin Seven Ruby -36
Gone:
Rover 820 ti -95
Rover 216 coupe -93
Rover 620 ti -98

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